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John Nidd
(1826-1855)
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(1815-1888)
John George Nidd
(1852-1943)
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(Cir 1851-1892)
Herbert Henry Nidd
(1877-1919)

 

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Herbert Henry Nidd 1 2 3

  • Born: Sep Q 1877, Salford, , Lancashire, England 1 3 4
  • Died: 4 Mar 1919, Cheadle Hulme, Stockport, , Cheshire, England aged 41 3 5 6
  • BuriedMale: 12 Mar 1919, Stockport, , Cheshire, England 7

bullet   Cause of his death was acute endocarditis and epileptiform convulsions.

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bullet  General Notes:

Document Details for WO 374/50664
Lettercode Title Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Class Title War Office: Officers' Services, First World War, personal files (alphabetical)
Piece Title NIDD, Capt H H
Text Date 1914-1919
Closure Status Open
Place of Deposit Public Record Office, Kew
Former Reference 7005
G

Deaths Mar 1919 (>99%)

Nidd Herbert H 41 Stockport 8a 204


Capt. Herbert Henry Nidd, Manch. R.
For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to
duty under an- intense hostile bombardment.
At a critical, momet, when the enemy appeared
to' be working round his flank, he
quickly rallied his men and counter-attacked,
driving them. back. He continually walked
about under heavy fire, encouraging his men
and showing a total disregard for his personal
safety. From London Gazette


Manchester Eegt.\emdash <Capt. H. H. Nidd to have
precedence as from l'2th Feb. 1917, next
below Capt. T. R. Eaton.
from London Gazette

In Stockport in 1911 staying with aunt and uncle

effects worth 1658 pounds 12 s 1d


Parish Records Collection - burial

First name(s):Herbert Henry

Last name:NIDD

Date of burial:12 Mar 1919

Age at death:41

Calculated year of birth:1878

Place of burial:Stockport

Dedication:Reddish Willow Grove Cemetery

County:Cheshire

Notes:
Stockport Reddish Willow Grove Cemetery:

Denomination:Cemetery

Coverage:1900 - 1927

Number of entries:12,911

Record source:National Burial Index

bullet  Research Notes:

C: and Settings Settings Internet Files HENRY NIDD.htm is a web page that details
nformation about Herbert Henry

Pasted here for info

NAME: HERBERT HENRY NIDD
RANK:
NUMBER: Captain
UNIT: 1/7th Battalion, Manchester Regiment
DATE OF DEATH: 4 March 1919
CEMETERY OR MEMORIAL: Not known
AGE: 41
OTHER INFORMATION: (updated February 2004)
Herbert Nidd was the son of John George NIdd of Queen's Gate, Manchester Road, Wilmslow, Cheshire and nephew of Mr & Mrs W Cooke, The Thorns, 103 Cheadle Road Cheadle Hulme. Herbert had been born on 16 July 1877 in Higher Broughton, Salford and it would seem that his mother had died whilst he was a young child. He had gone to live with the Cookes and was regarded as a son. His cousin, John Cooke, is also remembered on the Cheadle Hulme memorial.
Herbert had attended Warehousemen & Clerks School, Cheadle Hulme. He had spent some time living in London, moving back to this area in 1900. In 1914, was working for Manchester textile merchants, Sparrow, Hardwick & Co, as a mantle buyer. On 2 September 1914, he enlisted, as a private, in the 16th Battalion, Manchester Regiment (the first of the Manchester Pals). As with many middle class recruits, he was quickly commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant on 27 October 1914. He was promoted to Lieutenant with effect from 1 June 1916. Around this time, Herbert took command of "B" Company and these new responsibilities were noted with the award of a temporary rank of Captain. This was made permanent with effect from 27 March 1917.
Herbert's service papers describe him well. He was 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighed 136 pounds. He had brown hair, blue eyes and a fresh complexion.
He saw service at Gallipoli and in France. After three and a half years continuous service, he had been offered six months leave at home, but only took 10 days.
On 21 March 1918, the Germans launched a massive offensive driving the British back across many miles of the hard-won gains of the previous years. It was not until the 25th that the Manchesters found themselves under attack and had to withdraw. The next day found them at the outskirts of the village of Bucquoy. This had a certain irony with the troops as they had been "at rest" here eight months previously. There were no prepared trenches and the men had to find whatever cover they could. For Herbert and the rest of "B" Company, there was precious little to be found. They held this position all day under frequent artillery shelling. Over the next two days, the enemy continually shelled the British front line and the German infantry made gallant attempts to advance, but without real success. The Battalion's War Diary, for the 27th, records that, at 11.30am, the shelling increases to a bombardment which continues until dusk. There was constant enemy movement during the day. "Lines of them advance, apparently to attack, but attack is not pushed home on our front. Enemy is apparently endeavouring to secure an assembly position in shallow dead ground about 200 yards from our own front. Our rifles and Lewis Guns do a lot of execution. Our casualties considerable."
For his actions during this time, Captain Nidd was awarded the Military Cross. His citation reads "For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty under an intense hostile bombardment. At a critical moment, when the enemy appeared to be working round his flank, he quickly rallied his men and counter-attacked, driving them back. He continually walked about under heavy fire, encouraging his men and showing a total disregard for his personal safety."
Herbert had also received a minor wound but he continued to be "at duty". After this, the Battalion went into "rest" during May. Not long after this, Herbert's health deteriorated and, on 18 July, he was hospitalised, first in France and then in Leicester. He was subsequently invalided out of the army and returned to live in Cheadle Hulme with his aunt and uncle. The history of the Battalion records "We had always known that his grit and determination exceeded his physical capacity, but his splendid sense of duty led him to ignore this fact, although it was common knowledge that had he so wished he could have been invalided out of the army long before. After severe trials at Gallipoli, a campaign he went through from June to evacuation (he was one of the very few men to whom the evacuation was irksome), he had a relapse in hospital in Egypt for some weeks. The Bucquoy fight, however, had proved too much for him and he never really recovered from the ill effects of it. This was accentuated by the death of two of his near and dear friends…………..His name can be added to the long list of victim of the great German offensive in March."
After a long period of continued illness, Herbert died at home in Cheadle Hulme. His death certificate records cause of death as acute endocarditis and epileptiform convulsions. His family, including his stepmother, were with him when he died. Herbert is not commemorated by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. This is, presumably, because it was not considered that his illness was attributable to his military service. The family appears to have tried to get recognition and, on 29 June 1919, his GP had written to the War Office "He had dysentery and rheumatism whilst in Egypt on service and was invalided home on account of the heart condition which became progressively worse."
It is not known where Herbert is buried, although it is presumably in the Cheadle Hulme or Wilmslow. Any information would be most welcome.

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

1. Lived at: Station Road, 1891, Cheadle, , Cheshire, England. 3

2. Occupation: Draper's Assistant, 31 Mar 1901, Fulham, London. 3 8



3. Lived at: The Thorns, Cheadle Road, 1911, Cheadle Hulme, Stockport, , Cheshire, England.


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Sources


1 (1881 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1982) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1881, CEN 1881 Moss Side. Repository: Not Given. Cit. Date: 27 Jul 2004. Cit. ID: CEN 1881 Moss Side. Surety: 3.

2 : Apr 2001. ID: WEB, WEB http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=4442462&queryType=1&resultcount=6. Cit. Date: 16 Jan 2005. Cit. ID: WEb http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.go. Surety: 3.

3 (1891 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 1992) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1891 RG12, CEN 1891 rg12 2806 page 28. Cit. Date: 16 Sep 2006. Cit. ID: CEN 1891 rg12 2806 page 28. Surety: 2.

4 : FBMD, FBMD birth sep 1877 salford 8d 60. Repository: Online, www. Cit. Date: 26 Nov 2004. Cit. ID: FBMD birth sep 1877 salford 8d 60. Surety: 3.

5 GRO ID: GRO I, Surety: 3.

6 : GRO CH, GRO Cheshire index. Surety: 3.

7 National Burial Index, NBI. Cit. Date: 30 Dec 2007. Cit. ID: NBI Herbert Henry Nidd. Surety: 2. <b>National Burial index records
</b><u> </u><u> </u> First name(s): Herbert Henry Last name: NIDD Date of burial: 12 Mar 1919 Age at death: 41 Calculated year of birth: 1878 Place of burial: Stockport Dedication: Reddish Willow Grove Cemetery County: Cheshire Notes: Stockport Reddish Willow Grove Cemetery: Denomination: Cemetery Coverage: 1900 - 1927 Number of entries: 12,911 Data provider: North Cheshire Family History Society
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8 (1901 English and Welsh Census(London, TNA/Ancestry.co.uk, 2002) , Web site showing copies of original enumerator schedules) ID: CEN 1901, online 1901 census. Cit. Date: 4 Nov 2003. Surety: 3.


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